Friday, December 30, 2011

Cambodian Whirlwind

With very little time between departing from the south of Laos and needing to be in Vietnam (to meet up with my parents), I managed a very quick excursion into Cambodia - I figured I couldn’t claim to have done a legitimate tour of South East Asia without seeing Angkor Wat, and I was interested to visit Phnom Penh also.



The Joy of Travel!

Once again, I was anticipating a ‘VIP’ bus trip: A ferry from Don Khone, bus to the Cambodian border, and then onwards to Phnom Penh.  The journey promised to be long, and who knew what style of transport would await?!

The first surprise was when the ferry actually arrived on-time for my 8am pick-up… I was basically ready (just clipping up my bag when the girl came to get me), but I had been looking forward to at least half an hour of relaxation in my hammock (based on the theory of ‘Lao time’ being at least 30minutes late). 

It was a very quick trip to ‘mainland’ at Ban Nakasang, where I joined a large group of other foreign travellers, milling around waiting for a bus.  There was a guy offering to take care of your Cambodia visa (I think his rate was $30).  I figured (a) I could do it myself – and there was no value in ‘saving time’, since the bus would have to wait for me anyway, and (b) the actual visa fee was supposed to be just $20…

Another short journey took us to the border, where we had to alight, pick up our bags, and then proceed through on-foot.  The border process was lengthy and bureaucratic, with multiple opportunities for money-making (I guess I shouldn’t expect anything less from Laos/Cambodia?!) 

·         The first step was to EXIT Laos: queue up, and pay $2 for a stamp. 

·         Next, was the health quarantine tent: fill in a form, declare I am healthy, lady points some infra-red gun at my head (no clue if it actually did anything?!), hand over another $1 and get a stamp on my form.  As far as I could tell, no-one actually looked at this form at the Visa office, though they claimed I wouldn’t get a visa without this stamp. 

·         Then, on to the visa office, another form, another $23, but at least I got an official document in my passport for the cash! 

·         Finally, another checkpoint, another form, and my passport was stamped for entry into Cambodia (cost $2)! 

·         I staggered (under the weight of my pack you understand) over to join the other travellers waiting in a small patch of shade next to a line of food & drink stalls.  All up, the border process had cost me $28, making the $30 option to have it done for me less costly – BUT, then I would have missed all the fun; experiencing the insane process I’d just been through!  A couple of the other travellers actually argued with the officials about several of the charges – and managed to avoid some of the costs.  I couldn’t really be bothered with this, and just handed over the cash I was asked for; however, I understand there is some principal here: it’s not clear how many of the costs were real officially sanctioned fees, and how much were opportunistic additions.

We all assumed that after the border crossing we would board a bus, and carry-on… More fools Us!  We were now told we had to wait at the Cambodia border for THREE HOURS for another group of travellers to arrive – We were NOT happy!  Eventually, the other group did arrive (as it turned out, had been sold tickets to leave Si Phan Don at 10am – rather than the 8am trip I’d booked), and we left after ‘just’ two hours waiting around – although not before we ascertained there were not enough seats on the bus.  After a lot apparent confusion (and some stress on our part as bags were moved  in and out of the bus luggage storage), a small group of people were filled into a mini van, and the other ‘extras’ were provided with plastic kiddie-chairs (or sat on the floor) in the aisle.

The remainder of the bus trip was mostly uneventful; just very LONG (our scheduled 7pm arrival in Phnom Penh clearly wasn’t going to happen – in the end I think it was around 10pm).  We stopped a couple of times for food / toilet breaks, and I got my first introduction to the Cambodian dual-currency (US$/Cambodia Riel); more on that later.

When we finally arrived in PP the ‘bus stop’ was a piece of road apparently miles from anywhere… with a waiting group of Tuk Tuk drivers ready to capitalise on us ‘stranded’ tourists.  I had already booked a hostel, which was unfortunately a little further away than where the other travellers wanted to go, however I decided to share at least as far as the central riverside area.  With three others, I got my first glimpse of PP city at night: along the riverfront is lined with hotels and restaurants, lots of lights, and seemingly bustling late at night.  We dropped the first couple at a hotel, and then tried to find a place for Sayo (the third passenger in our Tuk Tuk).  Her first choice was fully booked, and (needing somewhere) we agreed to let the Tuk Tuk driver take us to his ‘cheap good place’… Probably a mistake, but sometimes you get desperate late at night… the hotel wasn’t far from the main strip, but was down a quieter, not very appealing street.  Sayo looked, and said ‘no’.  At this point, I tried to negotiate to be taken to the place I’d booked: I was fully aware that we’d have to pay more, but in actual fact, the Tuk Tuk driver just became difficult – he demanded a price way above what was reasonable, then told us that it was too far and he didn’t want to go there late at night – “you get another driver”!  We did eventually manage to get him to take us back to the main road, paid him off, and got another Tuk Tuk (for a slightly more reasonable price, and with a driver with a more pleasant demeanour!)  Hoping for a place for Sayo as well, we arrived at the ‘Mad Monkey’: the dorm rooms were all full (apart from the one I’d already booked), but there was a private room available – so, as seems to be the way with travel, I ended up sharing a bed with a girl I’d met about 30 minutes prior.



The oddest thing I found in Cambodia was the way it operated on a dual currency system.  The local currency is the ‘Riel”, but a lot of things are priced in US dollars.  There is a standard, simple conversion of $1 = 4000 Riel.  Services and items may be priced in US$ (accommodation, most restaurant food, and imported grocery items) or in Riel (local food stalls), or both.  Either, or a combination, is accepted as payment; for instance, for a bill of $1.50 you could pay $1 + 2000 Riel, or pay $2 and get 2000 Riel as change.  Often, the ATM machines ONLY dispense US$ - but this isn’t a problem, since this is always accepted, and it is possible to get the local currency as change through various transactions.  The locals are very adept mathematicians (or at least, they are expert in their ‘4x table’) and can easily convert between currencies.



Phnom Penh: The Charming City

PP gets mixed reviews from travellers: some like it, some really REALLY don’t.  So, I was interested to see how I would find it.  I didn’t spend long there, but I am in the positive camp.  The area where my hostel was located was very leafy and green – the British International School was just around the corner, and the houses, restaurants and bars appeared to cater for both the tourist and expat communities.  I met a couple of expats living in PP (who loved it), and I understand that there are a lot of Westerners there.  I heard on several occasions, that the rate of change in PP has been exponential in the last few years: high rise buildings that were not there 5-10 years ago are now dotted around.  However, that’s one of the things I liked about PP: it didn’t’ feel particularly built-up.  This feel was aided by the many green spaces (mediums between roads, in the middle of roundabouts, and green squares.  The paved walk along the waterfront was nice, and the road was lined with cafes and restaurants with bright lights and river views.  There was a banner hanging across one of the main streets which claimed “Phnom Penh: The Charming City”, and I think they might have some right to make that claim.



Our first day in PP, Sayo and I decided we’d try to do the main sites of interest: the Killing Fields, S21 (the Khmer Rouge prison), the central markets, and the Royal Palace.  Securing the services of a Tuk Tuk driver for the day, we headed out of the central city area.  En-route, our driver stopped and procured a couple of face masks for us – this was very much appreciated in the busy, dusty streets (they worked much better than the usual scarf around the face method).

The killing fields were a real experience.  It’s not one of those things that you can say was ‘enjoyable’, but it was very well presented.  The location itself is now a tranquil park-like area, with a central monument, and a pleasant lake around the back.  There are park benches to sit on, and the whole area is surrounded by rice paddy fields.  So, there isn’t a lot to see – only a very few reminders of what occurred there, and even those wouldn’t be immediately evident.  However, with the entry fee we were given an audio guide: at each point around the park there was a description of the buildings that once stood there (and the disturbing functions that they performed).  Even more poignant however, were the accounts from the survivors guards – stories of atrocities witnessed, and the ongoing pain felt by those who survived.  It was very well done.  Also disturbing, was the information that ‘you might see bits of bone or cloth along the path – these surface with the rains’.

One of the additional ‘benefits’ of listening to the audio guide was that all the visitors were very quiet – making it feel like a more respectful place.  Although I’ve read a little about the Khmer Rouge (I recommend the book “First they killed my father”), listening to the stories in the location where they occurred was different - it is unbelievable what humans can do to other humans.    



Our next stop was S21 – the old school that was converted into a Khmer Rouge prison.  From the outside, it looks very much like a school anywhere: 3-storey block buildings, arranged around a central courtyard / gardens.  The only real give-away is the barbed wire on the outside of the outer corridors.  Inside, there are rooms and rooms containing photographs of the victims (many of them were so young), there are a couple of paintings of prison scenes, and several display rooms with information about some of the remaining Khmer Rouge leadership who are on-trial with the International courts.  Some of the rooms had been converted into cell-blocks (divided by wooden partitions or bricked walls); they were very narrow, and claustrophobic.  The day was hot, it was past- lunch time, and I think we were both exhausted (physically and mentally).  Without the audio, I did find that S21 had less impact; but it was still worth seeing.



At S21, Sayo and I bumped into Hannah (with whom we’d shared the Tuk Tuk into town the night before), so together we headed to the central markets for a rest and sustenance stop.  The markets didn’t seem the most interesting I’ve seen; the main building is an impressive Art Deco style structure, and inside are numerous jewellery counters, surrounded on the outside by the usual souvenir scarves etc.  However, we found plenty of things to sample in the food section, and managed a very tasty lunch spread.

The final stop for the day was supposed to be the Royal Palace… ‘Supposed to be’ because we went, only to discover that we were apparently ‘improperly dressed’.  We were each wearing sleeveless tops, but had a scarf/sarong to wear as a wrap to cover our shoulders – this was apparently not acceptable.  I found this very bizarre; everywhere else I have been, a wrap is absolutely legitimate fashion for ensuring modestly – but not so the PP Royal Palace: other travellers beware!!  (The Lonely Planet only mentions that shoulders must be covered).  The up-side was that we avoided ‘another palace / another temple’, saved $6.50, and instead enjoyed a very pleasant walk along the waterfront, stopped for a drink looking out at the river, and then managed to fit in a pedicure before dinner!



I’d originally intended to stay two full days in PP, but with time running out before my flight to Vietnam, and with the promise of company (Hannah and Andy) for the journey to Siem Reap, I decided to head out the next day.

In the morning, we’d arranged to meet Hannah for breakfast – a plan that ended in a frustrating few hours, when Sayo and I failed to find the agreed cafĂ©, and then attempted to ring Hannah’s hostel to make contact (how did we EVER function without mobile phones?!)  We did make eventual contact, and I was able to book onto the same Siem Reap – bound bus.  Sayo and I then decided check out the Russian markets .  I can’t tell you much about it – we did a quick wander through, and then discovered the food section (surprise!)  One of them stalls claimed to have the ‘best iced coffee in PP’, and the very friendly proprietor told us he’d been making the drink for 31 years!  It was very good J



Siem Reap

The bus to Siem Reap was probably one of the better journeys I’ve done in recent times: A minivan, which, while at maximum capacity was reasonably comfortable (and I was even able to write some of my blog!)  On this occasion, we’d booked ahead with the Okay 1 Villa & Guest House (the sister residence of the guest house Hannah and Andy had stayed with at PP).  It was fantastic to arrive at the ‘bus stop’ (another random street corner – with no obvious bus-stop like features or facilities), and be met by the free pick-up service!  Even more fantastic, was arriving at the guest house, it was more like a small resort-hotel (complete with roof-top swimming pool and bar) – it wasn’t super flash, but compared to some of the more basic accommodation I’d been in recently, it was a palace!  There was some confusion with the rooms: the guest house in PP had told us there were a range of price options, but it appeared that the cheaper guest house rooms were fully booked.  This left the villa rooms, which I believe were more expensive.  However, with Hannah on the case (polite but firm!), we managed to secure a couple of very nice rooms – at amazing value.



The Temples

Clearly, the number one reason people visit Siem Reap is to see temples.  Angkor Wat, and the town of Angkor Thom are the famous ones, but there are many others of varying eras and styles. 

Having visited the temples of Bagan in Myanmar, I’d ‘kind of visualised something similar around Siem Reap.  So, I was a little worried that I wouldn’t really appreciate Angkor; finding myself to be experiencing a certain degree of ‘temple fatigue’!  I was assured that what I would find in Siem Reap was quite different – and this proved to be very much the case. 

·         Many of the temples around Siem Reap (Angkor Wat in particular) are really enormous complexes comprising concentric walled compounds; the central area of which houses the main temple.  In contrast, the temples in Bagan seemed mostly to be one single structure (of differing scales, but essentially quite compact).  I now understood why the guidebooks suggest allowing 1-2 hours each for some of the main temples!

·         The temples of Cambodia are spread out over a much wider area than Bagan (I didn’t visit the farthest out, as they were several hours drive).  This meant that, although it is possible to cycle around Angkor Wat and Angkor Thom, alternative transport (Tuk Tuk) is required for the rest.  Even Angkor is several kilometres (along a fairly busy road) from Siem Reap town.

·         Angkor is very picturesque, on account of it being in the middle of the jungle: the roads that I rode through (in my Tuk Tuk) were lined with trees, and many of the temples were accessed down pleasant paths of greenery.  (Often, these pleasant walks were accompanied by an incredibly loud chorus of high pitched cicada noise – sometimes the volume and pitch was actually a little painful: those little insects sure can make a racket!)  The ‘flip-side of this, is that (unlike Bagan) you can’t see from one temple to the next – so you don’t get the panoramic views of temples dotted around the landscape. 

·         As with Bagan, there are the famous sun-rise and sun-set spots; but unfortunately, the days I was there were not really clear enough for any dramatic displays of light.

So, essentially what I found was that you can’t really compare the two places.  Yes, Siem Reap and Bagan are both home to thousands of old temples and ruins, but that is where the similarities end!

I had three days in Siem Reap, and spent the first two dedicated to some serious temple check-list completion.  By day three, I decided I couldn’t do anymore; so I had a relaxed and enjoyable day checking out the town itself.



I bought an illustrated guide book of the temples on my first day.  This purchase was an experience in itself, as I didn’t know where any book shops were, so went to the old market in Siem Reap (hundreds of stalls selling tourist paraphernalia).  None seemed to sell books, but all the vendors greeted me with “what do you need / how can I help you?” so eventually I asked one lady where could I find a book… Not a problem: she could get for me (of course) - just wait a few minutes.  I duly waited, and in a short time she was back with a selection of options for me.  In the meantime, I’d also been befriended by the lady at the next stall with the nice scarves… I selected a book (and a few scarves), and attempted to bargain a little.  I didn’t feel in a strong position: I needed a book, and I couldn’t afford to waste more time looking elsewhere!  Finally, I made my purchase (it wasn’t too expensive), and was on my way J

I spent the next two days in varying states of bafflement while trying to follow the written guide’s tours around the complexes:

·         For a start, the headings were usually based on compass directions, and I found great difficulty determining where was North-South-East and West.  This was very frustrating, as I think I’m usually not too bad with this, but I really did struggle – trying to check the sun direction.  (Dad has since pointed out to me that, (1) Cambodia is Northern hemisphere, so the sun would be in the south at midday – which while I am aware of in theory, isn’t instinctive for me, but (2) actually it’s nearly on the equator, so in the middle of the day the sun is just directly overhead – not north or south).

·         The directions just became more complex from there: “at the south-facing side of the north-wall of the third gate, turn left 50 metres and look to your right; high up above the lintel you will see a very fine example of  dancing apsara (goddess)”…  I admit; I did make that specific example up… but they were (nearly) that obtuse.

·         Regardless of that, the book was still worth having, as it gave me at least some idea of what I was looking at.



Day ONE

On my first day of sightseeing I met my Tuk Tuk driver, who was very lovely, but spoke basically no English: so while we smiled and gestured to each other for the next two days, communication was somewhat limited!

I started with the Roluos group (one of the oldest groups, dating from the 9th century – older than Angkor).  The guidebooks suggested seeing these first in order to get an appreciation of the progression of architectural styles – probably a little lost on me; but it seemed as logical an itinerary as any!  I visited Preah Ko and Bakong, skipping the third temple in the group (Lolei) to save time.  Bakong is a five-terraced pyramid in the ‘mountain temple’ style… the first of MANY sets of stairs I would have to climb!

At some of the temples, the stairs were near vertical; reaching the top felt like an achievement!

In the afternoon, I visited the temples of the ‘Grand Circuit’- a well-worn path of temples outside of the walls of Angkor Thom:

·         Preah Khan is a large and somewhat crumbling complex, being partially overgrown by trees – similar to the more famous ‘Ta Prohm’ (the Indiana Jones one) – but a little less overcrowded.  The areas within the walls were cool and the surrounding trees very pleasant.  I quite liked this one!

·         Neak Pean was accessed along a long wooden boardway between mangroves (or at least, trees growing out of the water!): very picturesque.  The actual ‘temple’ was a bit underwhelming: it is situated in the middle of a pond, with four smaller ponds around it.  I thought this sounded interesting, but in actual fact it’s hard to get a good perspective on it, as you are not allowed any further than a fence along one side of the pools – the postcard images from above look more impressive.

·         Ta Som is a smaller temple, with the most impressive feature being the east gopura (entrance); which is almost wholly enveloped and supported by a huge tree.  There was also a cute girl selling souvenir postcards; I asked how many languages she could speak and she said TEN!  (Although only for counting: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10)

·       I finished the day at Pre Rup: a temple-mountain which is a favourite spot for ‘viewing sunset into the jungles and rice paddies of the Cambodian countryside’. 

I chose this one, on the basis that the more famous Phnom Bakeng sounded awful (from the descriptions I’d read online it would be highly overcrowded).  I met a guy at Pre Rup who had ‘attempted’ to get to Phnom Bakeng the day before – he said they arrived well before sunset, and already there was a queue of people about 100-deep trying to climb the stairs to the top terraces; it sounded like the entire area was packed with thousands of people – I was glad I didn’t go. 

Pre Rup is also a well-known sunset spot, so was pretty crowded in itself.  I managed to find myself a spot where I wouldn’t have anyone in front of me… to do this; I had to perch on a ledge in front of a statue (slightly precarious, and not completely comfortable!)  The sunset was a non-event: lots of cloud, and no sun… the people viewing was more interesting: the terrace below me was packed with tourists and hawkers – selling all kinds of crappy souvenirs (does anyone buy these things?)  A group of young guys beside me suggested the vendors would be more profitable selling beers… the next thing I know, their request was met with cold beer delivered up to them by an enterprising young woman!




Day TWO

On day 2, I left early (5am) to join the masses for sunrise at Angkor Wat.  There are pools of water in front of the main temple complex, and the best view is from the left hand side pool, behind the water, (so that you can watch the sunrise, and see the temple reflected in the water).  With so many other people jostling for a spot I literally stood in the muddy edges of the water in order to avoid being crowded out.  As expected, there was a coffee delivery enterprise available: hot, strong and sweet - much needed at that time of the morning!  The sunrise wasn’t the most spectacular – the sky gradually lightened, but I didn’t really see the sun, however I thought the colours were quite pretty, as were the reflections in the water.


After sunrise I did a quick walk through Angkor Wat; it was really quiet at that time of the morning, cool and rather pleasant.  The whole complex is rather large, and a bit hard to take in (particularly after such an early start, and before breakfast!) so I decided to depart, and come back later in the day.

Breakfast was at one of the highly-overpriced food stalls within Angkor Thom.  There are many options, but I was directed to the one owned by the sister of my Tuk Tuk driver (I figured they’d all be similar, so didn’t argue the point!)

After breakfast, I started on the itinerary of the day: Angkor Thom and the little circuit.  To be honest, with the early start and the heat I really struggled throughout the day, and didn’t enjoy all of it as much as I perhaps should have.  The crowds were far worse than my first day (this is the most popular route, with the most famous of the temples), and the hawkers were more prevalent (I didn’t find them unpleasant, but it was occasionally hard to keep a friendly demeanour when I just wanted to be left alone for a bit!)

·         Bayon, the famous one with all the giant stone faces.  The walls of the temple are covered in quite amazing carvings (though I probably spent too long looking at these, and got carving-fatigue!)  There were masses of people, and I spent a rather long time watching various tourists get their photographs taken with a group of very bored looking performers in traditional Cambodian dance dress (a couple of them were barely able to crack a smile for the photos!)


·         Royal Enclosure & Phimeanakas – Terrace of the Elephants – Terrace of the Leper King Impressive carvings, but I think In may have been feeling a little hot and tired…

·         Ta Keo: I was feeling very tired at this point and considered going back to the hotel to rest (but decided I didn’t really have time).  So this temple was my ‘last stop before a well-deserved lunch break’!  Actually, it was probably worth going just to ascend the ridiculously steep stairs… my thighs must have been getting a workout from all the temples requiring energetic ascents!



My lunch ‘break’ at one of the many restaurants outside Ta Prohm was not completely relaxing.  I was really tired, and just wanted to sit back, rest and write a few postcards: but it was not to be!  I was firstly approached at my table by several hawkers.  When I made it clear that I wasn’t buying they stopped trying to sell, and instead three of the kids became fascinated with my writing… because they use the Khmer alphabet (script), so my writing was very different!  The three of them were almost on top of me, as they leaned over to get a better look!



·         Ta Prohm is the famous Tomb Raider temple: crumbling buildings overgrown by strangler fig trees.  It is quite an amazing sight.  Although the ruins are fantastic, there are many places where the temple is not so much crumbling, as already crumbled (into massive piles of stone block and rubble).  In some places, there were heavy duty wires holding the walls into places, and many danger signs, alerting of restricted areas where collapse is evident.  The authorities have started doing restoration work around the temple, which means that some of the trees have been cleared, and wooden boardwalks have been put in: so who knows what it will look like in a few years (hopefully they can retain some of the ‘captured by the forest’ feel).



Being one of the most famous temples, this place was overrun with tour groups.  Particularly annoying, were the large Asian groups hogging all of the ‘best photo spots’, talking loudly, and generally distracting from any sense of peace or awe!  Although it was amazing, I think I preferred Preah Khan the day before.

·         Angkor Wat – Again!  I returned to Angkor at the end of the day; in theory to explore properly.  I did spend some time admiring the bas relief scenes of ‘various mythological stories and historic events’ (impressive).  But I didn’t allow myself enough time inside the main complex: and arrived only to find that they closed off the top levels well before sun down!  So, I can say I’ve been to Angkor Wat… but I never reached the top!  Overall, I found Angkor Wat more impressive from a distance – the famous silhouette against the lightening sky in the morning.  It was just too big to really appreciate from inside.

I stayed for sunset, but it was again another non-event, so I headed home to collapse in my room!



Siem Reap town

I made a couple of excursions into the centre of Siem Reap town… it seemed a nice compact centre, with a similar offering and feel to many of the other SE Asian tourist towns I’ve visited – They all have a mind-blowing selection of cafes, restaurants and bars catering to all tastes, have generally been beautified more than your average Asian city, and (the obvious giveaway) are filled with tourists.  Siem Reap isn’t as pretty as Luang Prabang or Hoi An, but it’s not a bad place to hang out for a day or so (while recovering from temple exhaustion).  The night market is small, but nice to browse, and the street-side eating establishments multiply in the evening. 

I enjoyed a Khmer BBQ one evening; where I cooked my own food at the table: the noodles and vegetables were cooked in a broth, and the meat was grilled directly on the heated pan.  As a bonus, I was sitting next to a couple of English women who had established a charity to help kids from orphanages find a vocation (something that was apparently missing previously, leading to problems when the kids reached an age where they need to leave the orphanage, but had nowhere to go).  They now worked with a range of other charities I think trying to assist setting up programs, and provide some form of integration.

Around Siem Reap, there were a lot of ‘good cause’ shops, selling some quite nice handicrafts.  There was also evidence of some of the outcomes of the war: I bought a book from an itinerant book vendor who had lost both of his arms due to a land mine explosion – there were several others like him, selling books, art and so on.  So while it was very easy to eat my ‘Lonely Planet recommended tasting platter from Angkor Palm restaurant’ or indulge in a fruit smoothie there were reminders that life for many has been irreversibly changed by (relatively recent) history.



And so I had to leave…

To get to Hanoi (to meet Mum and Dad) I had yet another crazy routing: Late flight from Siem Reap to Bangkok – Overnight at an airport hotel – Early flight to Hanoi.

‘Reason’: When originally planning my SE Asian travels, I intended to do a ‘loop’ around Thailand-Laos-Cambodia and back to Thailand.  Then, fly to Hanoi about 4 days ahead of Mum and Dad, in order to visit Sapa (Northern Vietnam – which we wouldn’t have time for).  Of course, what happened is that I ran out of time, and had to reschedule all my flights… but it was still cheaper to get to Hanoi via Bangkok (rather than the very expensive direct options). 

As a result, I made it to Hanoi (on about 4 hours sleep), and needed a few hours of midday siesta before I could brave the motorcycle-madness on the streets… but that’s a story for another blog entry J

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